Selections from Rumi’s Mathnawi
Translations by Kabir & Camille Helminski
Vision of the World
Know, son, that everything in the universe
is a pitcher brimming with wisdom and beauty.
The universe is a drop of the Tigris of His Beauty,
this Beauty not contained by any skin.
His Beauty was a Hidden Treasure so full
it burst open and made the earth
more radiant than the heavens.
[I, 2860-2]
This world and that world are forever giving birth:
every cause is a mother; the effect born is as a child.
When the effect was born, it too became a cause
so that it might give birth to wondrous effects.
These causes follow generation upon generation,
but it takes a very well-illumined eye
to see all the links in the chain.
[II, 1000-2]
Let the skeptic know:
all that is absent in the world
is present to one who receives ideas from God.
To Mary, John the Baptist's mother would appear,
though she was far away from her.
You can see a friend even with your eyes shut,
when you've made the skin a window for spiritual ideas.
[II, 3612-4]
Polishing the Mirror
Someone with a clear and empty heart
mirrors images of the Invisible.
He becomes intuitive and certain
of our inmost thought,
because "the faithful are a mirror for the faithful."
[I, 3146-7]
Those with mirror-like hearts
do not depend on fragrance and color:
they behold Beauty in the moment.
They've cracked open the shell of knowledge
and raised the banner
of the eye of certainty.
Thought is gone in a flash of light.
[I, 3492-4]
Though the worlds are eighteen thousand and more,
not every eye can see them.
Every atom is indeed a place of the vision of God,
but so long as it is unopened,
who says, "There is a door"?
[I, 3756; 3766]
When the mirror of your heart becomes clear and pure,
you'll behold images which are outside this world.
You will see the image and the image-Maker,
both the carpet of the spiritual expanse
and the One who spreads it.
[II, 72-3]
The sufi's book is not of ink and letters;
it is nothing but a heart white as snow.
[II, 159]
One who sees without distortion, free of prejudice,
has light in the eyes.
Self-interest blinds you
and buries your knowledge in a grave.
Lack of prejudice makes ignorance wise;
its presence makes knowledge perverse.
Accept no bribe, and your sight is clear;
act selfishly, and you become blind and enslaved.
[II, 2550-3]
When the heart becomes whole,
it will know the flavors of falsehood and truth.
When Adam's greed for the forbidden fruit increased,
it robbed his heart of health.
Discernment flies
from one who is drunken with desire.
He who puts down that cup
lightens the inner eye,
and the secret is revealed.
[II, 2738-43]
Perceiving Oneness
The cause of narrow mindedness is multiplicity:
the senses are drawn in many directions.
Know that the world of unification lies beyond sense:
if you want unity, march in that direction.
[I, 3099]
The Sun, which is spirit,
became separated into rays through the windows
which are bodies.
When you gaze on the Sun's disk, it is one,
but one who is screened by his perception
of bodies is in some doubt.
Plurality is in the animal spirit;
the human spirit is one essence.
Inasmuch as God sprinkled his light upon them,
they are essentially one.
His light never really separated.
[II, 186-9]
Discerning
If you have a touchstone, go ahead, choose;
otherwise, go and devote yourself
to one who knows the differences.
Either you must have a touchstone
within your own soul,
or if you don't know the way,
find someone who does.
[II, 746-7]
When the ear is penetrating, it becomes an eye.
Otherwise, the word of God becomes entangled
in the ear and does not reach the heart.
(II 862]
If not for the faulty things in the world,
every fool would be a shrewd merchant.
Then it would be easy to know the value of goods.
[II, 2939-40]
When it comes to human essences,
the foundation of these buildings we build,
know there are differences.
Neither is one person's life like another,
nor is any death the same.
Never think anyone's grave is similar.
How indeed shall I describe the difference that exists
among souls in that other world?
Put your work to the touchstone as you work.
[II, 3022-5]
The Spiritual Faculties
Generosity, then, comes from the eye—
not from the hand—it's seeing that matters:
only one who sees is saved.
[II, 900]
The five spiritual senses are all connected.
They've grown from one root.
As one grows strong, the others strengthen, too:
each one becomes a cupbearer to the rest.
Seeing with the eye increases speech;
speech increases discernment in the eye.
As sight deepens, it awakens every sense,
so that perception of the spiritual
becomes familiar to them all.
[II, 3236-9]
When one sense grows into freedom,
all the other senses change as well.
When one sense perceives the hidden,
the invisible world becomes apparent to the whole.
[II, 3240-1]
When one sheep of the flock jumps over a stream,
they all jump across on each other's heels.
Drive the sheep, your senses, to pasture:
Let them feed on the pasture shown by
He who has brought forth the herbage,
that they may graze on hyacinth and wild-rose;
and be led to the green meadows of the Realities;
that every one of their senses
may become a prophet to the others,
and lead all senses into that paradise.
[II, 3242-5]
Only With God
Though you may learn wisdom by rote,
it leaves when you're unworthy to receive it.
But if you don't read and it sees your ardor of love,
Knowledge will be a docile bird, obedient to your hand.
[II, 318-21]
The world is full of remedies,
but you have no remedies until God
opens a window for you.
Though you are unaware of that remedy now,
God will make it clear
in the hour of need.
[II, 682-3]
The sensuous eye is a horse;
the light of God is the rider:
without the rider the horse is useless.
The light of God rides the body's eye.
The soul yearns for God.
God's light enhances the senses.
This is the meaning of Light upon Light.
[II, 1286, 1290-3]
Conventional knowledge is for sale;
when it finds a purchaser,
it glows with delight.
The purchaser of real knowledge is God:
its market is always splendid.
The owner of real knowledge has closed his lips
and is enraptured in his trading:
the buying is without end,
for God has purchased.
[II, 3265-7]
Conclusions
Spiritual life is awareness in the time of trial:
the more awareness you have,
the more spiritual life is yours.
Our spiritual life is more than animal spirit. How?
It has more awareness.
The spiritual life of angels is greater than ours;
it transcends common sense.
Yet the spiritual life of heart-gnostics is greater still.
Don't be bewildered by this.
[II, 3326-9]
We’re quite addicted to subtle discussions;
we're very fond of solving problems.
So that we may tie knots and then undo them,
we constantly make rules for posing the difficulty
and for answering the questions it raises.
We're like a bird which loosens a snare
and then ties it tighter again
in order to perfect its skill.
It deprives itself of open country;
it leaves behind the meadowland,
while its life is spent dealing with knots.
Even then the snare is not mastered,
but its wings are broken again and again.
Don't struggle with knots,
so your wings won't be broken.
Don't risk ruining your feathers
to display your proud efforts.
[II, 3733-8]
Article Source : Sufism.org
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Sufism - The Path of Love
The word Sufi is derived from the Greek "Sophia", meaning Wisdom. It is known as Tasawwuf ( Mysticism ) in Arabic, and is considered by scholars as the mystical, the inner or psycho-spiritual aspect of Philosophia Islamica. The great scholar, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, considered Sufism as the esoteric dimension of Al Islam.
Sufism emphasises on the Unity of Absolute Being, Wahdat al Wujud. Absolute Being alone exists in se and the Relative Universe is only a superimposition upon the Absolute Reality. Absolute Being is also Absolute Beauty, before Whose Beauty all earthly beauty is but a pale comparison !
The Influence of Neoplatonism on Sufism
Plotinus, the founder of Neoplatonism conceived the Divine as the Alpha and Omega of Existence, its Source & Goal. The translations of Plotinus provided the philosophical ground for Sufism. One is struck by the similarities which exist in both systems, with regard to the concept of God, the soul, the body, Vice and Virtue, Life and Death and Beauty !
Sufism was influenced by Orpheus and Pythagoreanism. Orpheus was a poet who lived in Anatolia in the 6th and 7th centuries BCE. He had divine qualities and he could influence wild animals with his music. He postulated that the human soul can achieve perfection by refining itself from all passions and worldly possessions. Soul travels from body to body for self purification and reaches the Perfect State. Pythagorus adopted Orpheus' philosophy and integrated it with his own concepts. Plotinus, the founder of Neoplatonism took Plato's Theory of Ideas and reinterpreted them from Protagoras' point of view. Neoplatonism considers the Divine as the Alpha & the Omega. From Him everything comes into being, in Him everything exists, and to Him all return. Communion or Union with Him is the highest Goal, therefore. Our lives have only a symbolic meaning and it is good and necessary as a Becoming. But all Becoming has Being as its Goal and Fulfillment and God is the only Being !
Sufism is the Path of Love - Al Muhabba. The Lord is understood as Universal Love and the aim of Sufism is to unite with the Source of all Being, Universal Love ! Love without Philosophy is superstition and Sufism therefore encourages the adventures of the intellect, the scientific and the philosophical pursuit, Al Marifa !
When he was asked about Sufism, Junayd ( the preceptor of Mansur Al Hallaj ) said, "Sufism is that you should be with the Divine-- without any attachment."
Sufism emphasises upon the struggle to overcome the dominance that one's Negative Ego ( Nafs ) has over one. The war depicted in the great Epics - Iliad & the Odyssey etc - depict the great war between Good and Evil happening inside the human bosom - where the great struggle for supremacy is fought out on the ground floor of our existence, between the black and white opposites of Virtue and Vice, Light and Darkness, prosperity & adversity. The Beloved ( God ) may manifest as Benevolence or Severity and the Sufi aspirant has to love both !
As Rumi said:
I am a lover of both His benevolence and severity!
Amazing it is that I'm in love with these opposites !
If the aspirant can overcome one's Negative Ego, ( in the inner War, Jihad ul Nafs ) he can achieve Bliss, the Bliss for which the world's derelict sorrows yearn !
If you could get rid of yourself just once,
The secret of secrets would open to you.
The face of the Unknown, hidden beyond the universe
Would appear on the Mirror of your perception. ~Rumi
Annihilation in the Divine Ocean
Like the waves of the Ocean, we are individual egos in the Divine Ocean of Existence. The aspirant, desirous of union with the Beloved, has to go through many stages of Consciousness. He has to lose his illusory individuality in the Infinite and this can only be achieved by Annihilation and Subsistence.
The Sheik of Naqshbandi wrote
In my annihilation of annihilation
In my annhilation
I found You !
Annihilation in the Divine Beloved.
For every initiate, there will be a Master ( Shaikh ). The Shaikh imparts his power to the disciple. The initiate goes through a process of purification and initiation. Once the initiate attains maturity, by the Grace of his Shaikh, he attains the state of Fana fi Shaikh, a state of annihilation in the astral plane.
The next stage is Fana fi Rasool, enjoying the qualities of the Prophet. Grace descends on him as he furthur advances on the path.
Next stage in the Evolution of Consciousness is the state of Fana fi Allah, annihilation in the Beloved. The initiate loses his identity in the all embracing Beloved, who he now understands is the Prime Mover of everything and who permeates the cosmos !
Rumi wrote
I thought about You so often
That I completely became You !
Little but little You drew near
Slowly but slowly I passed away.
This passing away is Annihilation in the Beloved ( Fana fi Allah ). There is another
intermediary state - Fana al Fana and the last state is Baqi bi Allah or Permanence in the
Beloved, which is the Eternal or Ultimate State. Fanah refers to Annihilation & Bakah refers to Subsistence.
The Universal Truth, extolled by all religions and philosophies, is the Essential Self, which is the substratum or the basis for the Persona, or the superficial personality. Every man has a Persona or Mask, but deep within him is the Ultimate Reality or Essential Self. Now to manifest the Essential Self, the initiate goes through a process of purification & transmutes his carnal ego into a refined ego, by the process of Prayer and Meditation. He seeks the Divine, loves the Divine, embraces the Divine, lives with the Divine and sacrifices for the Divine ! By his noble sacrifice, he earns for himself Heaven ! Only by hard sacrifice is high Heaven earned !
About Universal Truth, Ibn Arabi, the Great Master , ( al Shaikh al Akbar ) wrote
She has eluded the learned of Islam
And those who have studied the Psalms
The Jewish Rabbi
The Christian priest !
The greatest Sufi was Mohammed himself ( Peace be upon him ), he who said that " Shariah ( Ethical Law ) is my speech, Tariqat ( the Way ) my actions and Haqiqat ( Truth ) my states " !
Sufism can function as a Universal Religion & the well known scholar Kabir Edmund Helminski wrote thus about Sufism
" If Sufism recognizes one central truth, it is the unity of being, that we are not separate from the Divine. The unity of being is a truth which our age is in an excellent position to appreciate -- emotionally, because of the shrinking of our world through communications and transportation, and intellectually, because of developments in modern physics. We are One: one people, one ecology, one universe, one being. If there is a single truth, worthy of the name, it is that we are all integral to the Truth, not separate. The realization of this truth has its effects on our sense of who we are, on our relationships to others and to all aspects of life. Sufism is about realizing the current of love that runs through human life, the unity behind forms."
Inner & Outer Jihad ( Struggle ) in Sufism
"And those who perform jihad for Us, We shall certainly guide them in Our ways,
and God is surely with the doers of good". (Quran XXXIX; 69)
"You have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad" . (Hadith)
Jihad means struggle and there are two types of struggle. The lesser Jihad is struggle against the oppressors; the greater Jihad is the inner struggle against the inner enemies, the Seven Deadly Sins ( lust, greed, anger, jealousy, sloth, covetousness & gluttony). The outer struggle is defined as Al Jihad Al Asghar and the inner struggle is Al Jihad Al Akbar !
Fighting against one's negative ego is the most difficult, as the most difficult conquest is the conquest of the Mind. Verily it is said that the noblest conquest is the conquest of Mind or the greatest conquest is the conquest of oneself.
In his journey, the aspirant ultimately overcomes his Negative Ego & he becomes the Perfect Man, Al Insan Al Kamil !
Article by G Kumar, astrologer, writer and programmer of http://www.astrologiavedica.com/. He has 15 years research experience in Stock Market Astrology and various other branches of Astrology. Recently he was awarded a Certificate by the Planetary Gemologists Association ( www.p-g-a.org ) as a Planetary Gem Advisor. He has 15 years psychic research experience in the esoteric arts. To subscribe to his Free ezine, the Z Files, click here. mailto:info@eastrovedica.com?subject=subscribe He is contactable at info@eastrovedica.com Address of his physical shop is Zodiac Computers, 3/528 Tkss Bldgs, East Nada, Guruvayur Kerala, India 680101. Office Phone +91 0487-2552851. Home Phone +91 0487-2422060
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Sufism emphasises on the Unity of Absolute Being, Wahdat al Wujud. Absolute Being alone exists in se and the Relative Universe is only a superimposition upon the Absolute Reality. Absolute Being is also Absolute Beauty, before Whose Beauty all earthly beauty is but a pale comparison !
The Influence of Neoplatonism on Sufism
Plotinus, the founder of Neoplatonism conceived the Divine as the Alpha and Omega of Existence, its Source & Goal. The translations of Plotinus provided the philosophical ground for Sufism. One is struck by the similarities which exist in both systems, with regard to the concept of God, the soul, the body, Vice and Virtue, Life and Death and Beauty !
Sufism was influenced by Orpheus and Pythagoreanism. Orpheus was a poet who lived in Anatolia in the 6th and 7th centuries BCE. He had divine qualities and he could influence wild animals with his music. He postulated that the human soul can achieve perfection by refining itself from all passions and worldly possessions. Soul travels from body to body for self purification and reaches the Perfect State. Pythagorus adopted Orpheus' philosophy and integrated it with his own concepts. Plotinus, the founder of Neoplatonism took Plato's Theory of Ideas and reinterpreted them from Protagoras' point of view. Neoplatonism considers the Divine as the Alpha & the Omega. From Him everything comes into being, in Him everything exists, and to Him all return. Communion or Union with Him is the highest Goal, therefore. Our lives have only a symbolic meaning and it is good and necessary as a Becoming. But all Becoming has Being as its Goal and Fulfillment and God is the only Being !
Sufism is the Path of Love - Al Muhabba. The Lord is understood as Universal Love and the aim of Sufism is to unite with the Source of all Being, Universal Love ! Love without Philosophy is superstition and Sufism therefore encourages the adventures of the intellect, the scientific and the philosophical pursuit, Al Marifa !
When he was asked about Sufism, Junayd ( the preceptor of Mansur Al Hallaj ) said, "Sufism is that you should be with the Divine-- without any attachment."
Sufism emphasises upon the struggle to overcome the dominance that one's Negative Ego ( Nafs ) has over one. The war depicted in the great Epics - Iliad & the Odyssey etc - depict the great war between Good and Evil happening inside the human bosom - where the great struggle for supremacy is fought out on the ground floor of our existence, between the black and white opposites of Virtue and Vice, Light and Darkness, prosperity & adversity. The Beloved ( God ) may manifest as Benevolence or Severity and the Sufi aspirant has to love both !
As Rumi said:
I am a lover of both His benevolence and severity!
Amazing it is that I'm in love with these opposites !
If the aspirant can overcome one's Negative Ego, ( in the inner War, Jihad ul Nafs ) he can achieve Bliss, the Bliss for which the world's derelict sorrows yearn !
If you could get rid of yourself just once,
The secret of secrets would open to you.
The face of the Unknown, hidden beyond the universe
Would appear on the Mirror of your perception. ~Rumi
Annihilation in the Divine Ocean
Like the waves of the Ocean, we are individual egos in the Divine Ocean of Existence. The aspirant, desirous of union with the Beloved, has to go through many stages of Consciousness. He has to lose his illusory individuality in the Infinite and this can only be achieved by Annihilation and Subsistence.
The Sheik of Naqshbandi wrote
In my annihilation of annihilation
In my annhilation
I found You !
Annihilation in the Divine Beloved.
For every initiate, there will be a Master ( Shaikh ). The Shaikh imparts his power to the disciple. The initiate goes through a process of purification and initiation. Once the initiate attains maturity, by the Grace of his Shaikh, he attains the state of Fana fi Shaikh, a state of annihilation in the astral plane.
The next stage is Fana fi Rasool, enjoying the qualities of the Prophet. Grace descends on him as he furthur advances on the path.
Next stage in the Evolution of Consciousness is the state of Fana fi Allah, annihilation in the Beloved. The initiate loses his identity in the all embracing Beloved, who he now understands is the Prime Mover of everything and who permeates the cosmos !
Rumi wrote
I thought about You so often
That I completely became You !
Little but little You drew near
Slowly but slowly I passed away.
This passing away is Annihilation in the Beloved ( Fana fi Allah ). There is another
intermediary state - Fana al Fana and the last state is Baqi bi Allah or Permanence in the
Beloved, which is the Eternal or Ultimate State. Fanah refers to Annihilation & Bakah refers to Subsistence.
The Universal Truth, extolled by all religions and philosophies, is the Essential Self, which is the substratum or the basis for the Persona, or the superficial personality. Every man has a Persona or Mask, but deep within him is the Ultimate Reality or Essential Self. Now to manifest the Essential Self, the initiate goes through a process of purification & transmutes his carnal ego into a refined ego, by the process of Prayer and Meditation. He seeks the Divine, loves the Divine, embraces the Divine, lives with the Divine and sacrifices for the Divine ! By his noble sacrifice, he earns for himself Heaven ! Only by hard sacrifice is high Heaven earned !
About Universal Truth, Ibn Arabi, the Great Master , ( al Shaikh al Akbar ) wrote
She has eluded the learned of Islam
And those who have studied the Psalms
The Jewish Rabbi
The Christian priest !
The greatest Sufi was Mohammed himself ( Peace be upon him ), he who said that " Shariah ( Ethical Law ) is my speech, Tariqat ( the Way ) my actions and Haqiqat ( Truth ) my states " !
Sufism can function as a Universal Religion & the well known scholar Kabir Edmund Helminski wrote thus about Sufism
" If Sufism recognizes one central truth, it is the unity of being, that we are not separate from the Divine. The unity of being is a truth which our age is in an excellent position to appreciate -- emotionally, because of the shrinking of our world through communications and transportation, and intellectually, because of developments in modern physics. We are One: one people, one ecology, one universe, one being. If there is a single truth, worthy of the name, it is that we are all integral to the Truth, not separate. The realization of this truth has its effects on our sense of who we are, on our relationships to others and to all aspects of life. Sufism is about realizing the current of love that runs through human life, the unity behind forms."
Inner & Outer Jihad ( Struggle ) in Sufism
"And those who perform jihad for Us, We shall certainly guide them in Our ways,
and God is surely with the doers of good". (Quran XXXIX; 69)
"You have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad" . (Hadith)
Jihad means struggle and there are two types of struggle. The lesser Jihad is struggle against the oppressors; the greater Jihad is the inner struggle against the inner enemies, the Seven Deadly Sins ( lust, greed, anger, jealousy, sloth, covetousness & gluttony). The outer struggle is defined as Al Jihad Al Asghar and the inner struggle is Al Jihad Al Akbar !
Fighting against one's negative ego is the most difficult, as the most difficult conquest is the conquest of the Mind. Verily it is said that the noblest conquest is the conquest of Mind or the greatest conquest is the conquest of oneself.
In his journey, the aspirant ultimately overcomes his Negative Ego & he becomes the Perfect Man, Al Insan Al Kamil !
Article by G Kumar, astrologer, writer and programmer of http://www.astrologiavedica.com/. He has 15 years research experience in Stock Market Astrology and various other branches of Astrology. Recently he was awarded a Certificate by the Planetary Gemologists Association ( www.p-g-a.org ) as a Planetary Gem Advisor. He has 15 years psychic research experience in the esoteric arts. To subscribe to his Free ezine, the Z Files, click here. mailto:info@eastrovedica.com?subject=subscribe He is contactable at info@eastrovedica.com Address of his physical shop is Zodiac Computers, 3/528 Tkss Bldgs, East Nada, Guruvayur Kerala, India 680101. Office Phone +91 0487-2552851. Home Phone +91 0487-2422060
Some Sufi resources on the Net
Threads of Love Sufi Conference
http://www.suficonference.org/
Caravansarai: an informal discussion list for friends and for visitors of
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http://sarmoun.listbot.com/
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Seyh Abdul Kerim el-Kibrisi. His Sheykh is Mevlana Seyh Nazim al-Hakkani
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subject related to Islam and tarikat. However, we allow no arguments. Thank
you. Selam aleykum.
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